And for the rest of this hour we are going to talk more about this topic crisis in particular. Decorated Iraq War veteran David -- of villas at WB Ian contributors occasional talk show host here. David you've obviously been over there in Iraq you've been on the ground. Do you see this is situation that can be won with boots on the ground. Or should we may be doing as the presidency just. Airstrikes in a more moderate approach there is no way to defeat this this crisis force without soldiers fighting them on the ground and I doubt you predict that's gonna happen it has to happen if you're serious about finding and clearing terrain you can -- terrain. Alicia boots on the ground to take a minimum of 40000 troops Americans so far are. Against boots on the ground it's okay to send and advisors on the ground as a kid to send an air strikes but they're against boots on the ground. Do you think America will come around. I think America's probably. But you know honestly I don't want this president's any boots on the ground and trust him to to be to follow through the decision. But that they -- the reaction and the reality is that we we have to do this if we want to confront this enemy and advisors are boots on the ground.