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WBEN NewsRadio 930>Audio & Video on Demand>>Politicians Have It Too Easy Once Elected? - Kevin Hardwick; Pt II

Politicians Have It Too Easy Once Elected? - Kevin Hardwick; Pt II

Jul 15, 2014|

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In the studio doctor Kevin Hartman political science professor from in the college and a Republican member of the Erie county legislature and the like correct Kevin. An expectant. -- -- to be grandfather yes I was in this studio seven years ago when my granddaughter Julie was born -- it looks like my grandson Max. May be born within the hours so we're we're hopeful and keep us posted on the block it's it's wonderful congratulations -- Okay you're a politician. You -- your third term or in and I am on my third during your third or to your term yes it so that makes now we would wouldn't be cared only careful here what the future. Opponent. Label you as a career politician oh sure it sure you this -- past opponents have but it -- like three to go in and of course and -- legislature is a part time job like a lot of town councils and things like there. So if you have another career does MAQ career politician I mean obviously I would argue in my career educator and kinesis college for 25 years still going strong. And that's my career and I do politics on the side but. You know. Like I said in the last segment it's in the eye of the beholder if you're the challenger you're gonna label anyone any income as a career politician. Because career politicians sounds -- Would you agree though that being a politician. Today. Is not a service anymore it's a profession. All light I -- I don't think the two were mutually exclusive I think a good politician. It will be a public servant. And they can be professionals so that depends on the job. I mean if you're talking about a lot of part time councilman in in cold in there whatever. Or even the justice. In some of these small towns it's not you know it's not a full time job it's that what they do 24 sevenths. It is a service -- the people. On the other hand if you're talking about congressman if you agreement state legislators. Senators. You know it does that's a profession that's a full time job. Didn't used to be I mean there was a time fifty years ago when you know there were a lot of farmers still on the county area in the state legislature you know assembly and senators. They would go to Albany a few months of the year and they'd be back in time you know plant the crops. Organize your favor you favorite -- elements I do I well I do for. I have a nuanced position I do certainly for legislative positions. I think it's it's tougher to pick off an incumbent legislator. Than it is to pick off an executive and executive you know Harry Truman said the buck stops here. I mean you look at our recent county executives for instance. Mean go back to -- score ski he was defeated by jolting number. -- number after a couple terms decided not to run again I think most people think if he ran again you know. He would have been defeated. Then in came Chris Allen's well Chris -- lasted one term it's it's. You know people hold executives accountable. You know you think you're reading green budget everybody associated to Atwood told congress they don't associate that with the county legislators who let that happen. And they don't pay the price of the poll that the executive does and it's the same for governor president or you know any mayor any executive position. Eternal mystery and local offices. Not. Not I don't believe in this neck of the woods but there there are in some places in New York while mayor of New York for instance is term limited. Mayors of a number of other cities are term limited. On it's it's something that we can do today it's something we're looking into. In the county legislature I think in the not too distant future will have a term limit proposal while. But most successful one. The I think I think it has the as a great chance of passing. I've been talking to one of my colleagues on the -- legislators Ted Morton. Cheektowaga he also represents Lancaster. He ran -- that he's all fourth in and I import I think we're gonna put something in the not too distant future. I've talked to some of my Republican colleagues in the legislature in the and many of them are four. I think we'll pick up some democratic support and certainly if it goes to the voters. IE I predict that people fall for what went to limit -- well. You know that's that's the thing we we were kicking around in and you know ten years for us seems to be or at least for me seems to be the sweet spot you don't want to limit it. The two -- four years because then you've got every couple years you've got a whole new legislature is a learning curve there and you don't want to. But two rookies just like you don't want a bunch of rookies and the sabres unless you're building for three years down the road. You know you want a mix of experience and some new people -- new ideas. And I think if you and limit people one term or two terms. It's not going to be good thing and I think you know 52 year terms ten years maximum. Isn't you know is is that is that happy medium for me --

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