Oct 26, 2016|
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Let's go back to our focus not on obamacare of the Affordable Care Act and the use premium hikes I guess the start denouncing Nielsen. Nancy goes past president of the AMA and American Medical Association also would you be faculty experts on health care policy. Doctor Nielsen good morning. Why is Obama care failing right now. Well. Important is when in giant copper volley not failing light let it lead is you're using very real problem that needs to be it draft. And so if we get a problem like maybe we can figure out the solution. What what is being counted as quote Obama care hey. Very serious concern about premium is on the individual exchange going up an average of 25%. And that that is a massive problem for the people who participate. In those programs. Or who are those people. They are people do not get your insurance. Through their employer. And there are people who are not on Medicare or Medicaid killed about 7% of the population. But that's a lot of people being back there somewhere around eight million people make ten yet. We are very concerned about. Why it happened. Because. The insurer didn't get the breaking right. Because more people than expected went onto the land. And because some of the very large picture of united. Hold out of their last competition. That is the problem as long as we understand. That's the problem the problem is not. Employer based insurer and Wear it under 26 are covered under their parents' insurance and I want. And we can talk about maybe he needs to happen. Well Nancy one thing you did not bring up specifically. But our other guests did bring up was that younger people seem to be resisting picking on healthcare coverage and this compounds the problem. It exactly right and and that theory for why that that happened why is that necessary. Because you guys split the rescue you gotta have younger healthier people don't practice much in the same insurance pool mean that's an old insurance. Acxiom. And why didn't they sign up well maybe it worked philosophically opposed by most people think that the penalty or. Not having insurance. Worked too small and that subsidies weren't enough so. The so it absolutely true that younger healthier people need to be in the pool. Aren't so you've been working with the administration on reforming health care procedures for years. Where where is the fix what would you do. I've been working to keep fix it for years with any administration actually not just the one. What would we do. I think my production. And as this is not supported by anything other then and my gut reaction haven't watched health care. And the relationship between government and help insurers over a number of years. I think it's gonna happen is that ultimately the government bailout the hours. There are pretty controversy about how much the government owed the insurers who participated in the health plans a few of them have filed lawsuit. I think what we're gonna see is exactly what we saw back 25 years ago horse now. When HMOs started the government realized they were feeling the insurers cherry on why and and then they got bailed out and they. Premium increase that debt that lasted for a number of years. I suspect will eat something like that happened. Because it's clearly not in anybody's best interest for people to go without insurance are here. What what. Party you belong to were people long it's not it's not seen it about having. No health insurance. But the bigger problem is is it is more than just the cost of the premiums so I hope we get a chance to talk about. You had mentioned that people who'd failed to sign up were being penalized but the penalties were not high enough. Let do you know anybody who has been penalized for not signing up I mean really you know anybody have you heard of anybody. I know that there are people but I don't know are how many and pat and I don't know anybody per. Wait I mean who goes around and who goes around and enforces this. It you know. John I'm not sure I get to it the that's where you have to provide their output you have to either provide an affidavit or something. Our series of form that have to be done I remember when we get our taxes what had begun. Ari aren't so wrapping up your Nancy White House as you wanna get him. Well I think it's important for all of that bad that helped your costs but warned that occur after the show I mean this issue with the insurance. A fax number or people. Odd no question about it it's highly geographically. Of variable. We have to address the. Cost of health here because as even with employers. Ordered it cost of insurance is only go up on average three to 4%. Historically low rise. All the people are finding that they're deep dark a bit higher they're co pays higher and the networks may be smaller. So the cost of health here in general is one that we better come together. As a country to Albany it's gonna copy it's going to require compromise. Would people. A goodwill on both sides of the I'll. Okay nice to chat for the U Nancy our guest doctor Nancy Nielsen. A past president of the American medical association of anyone knows about obamacare. And the Affordable Care Act of Nancy who's also WB faculty. Is an expert on health care policy with the university.